Interest for thought

Hi All
I found this very interesting and thought some of you would too.

All I can say to this is WOW, what an essay – how’s the statement “’re murdering history..!?”. It deserves exposure. Distribute it far and wide,
Interestingly, Chris Patten (Lord Patten of Barnes), The Chancellor of Oxford University, was on the Today Programme on BBC Radio 4 yesterday on precisely the same topic. The Daily Telegraph headline yesterday was “Oxford will not rewrite history”.
Patten commented ““Education is not indoctrination. Our history is not a blank page on which we can write our own version of what it should have been according to our contemporary views and prejudice”

Rhodes must fall ????
“Dear scrotty students,
Cecil Rhodes’s generous bequest has contributed greatly to the comfort and well being of many generations of Oxford students – a good many of them, dare we say it, better, brighter and more deserving than you.

This does not necessarily mean we approve of everything Rhodes did in his lifetime – but then we don’t have to. Cecil Rhodes died over a century ago. Autres temps, autres moeurs 2. If you don’t understand what this means – and it would not remotely surprise us if that were the case – then we really think you should ask yourself the question: “Why am I at Oxford?”

Oxford, let us remind you, is the world’s second oldest extant university. Scholars have been studying here since at least the 11th century. We’ve played a major part in the invention of Western civilisation, from the 12th century intellectual renaissance through the Enlightenment and beyond. Our alumni include William of Ockham, Roger Bacon, William Tyndale, John Donne, Sir Walter Raleigh, Erasmus, Sir Christopher Wren, William Penn, Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), Samuel Johnson, Robert Hooke, William Morris, Oscar Wilde, Emily Davison, Cardinal Newman. We’re a big deal. And most of the people privileged to come and study here are conscious of what a big deal we are. Oxford is their alma mater – their dear mother – and they respect and revere her accordingly.

And what were your ancestors doing in that period? Living in mud huts, mainly. Sure we’ll concede you the short lived Southern African civilisation of Great Zimbabwe. But let’s be brutally honest here. The contribution of the Bantu tribes to modern civilisation has been as near as damn it to zilch.

You’ll probably say that’s “racist”. But it’s what we here at Oxford prefer to call “true.” Perhaps the rules are different at other universities. In fact, we know things are different at other universities. We’ve watched with horror at what has been happening across the pond from the University of Missouri to the University of Virginia and even to revered institutions like Harvard and Yale: the “safe spaces”; the #‎blacklivesmatter; the creeping cultural relativism; the stifling political correctness; what Allan Bloom rightly called “the closing of the American mind”. At Oxford however, we will always prefer facts and free, open debate to petty grievance-mongering, identity politics and empty sloganeering. The day we cease to do so is the day we lose the right to call ourselves the world’s greatest university.

Of course, you are perfectly within your rights to squander your time at Oxford on silly, vexatious, single-issue political campaigns. (Though it does make us wonder how stringent the vetting procedure is these days for Rhodes scholarships and even more so, for Mandela Rhodes scholarships) We are well used to seeing undergraduates – or, in your case – postgraduates, making idiots of themselves. Just don’t expect us to indulge your idiocy, let alone genuflect before it. You may be black – “BME” as the grisly modern terminology has it – but we are colour blind. We have been educating gifted undergraduates from our former colonies, our Empire, our Commonwealth and beyond for many generations. We do not discriminate over sex, race, colour or creed. We do, however, discriminate according to intellect.

That means, inter alia, that when our undergrads or postgrads come up with fatuous ideas, we don’t pat them on the back, give them a red rosette and say: “Ooh, you’re black and you come from South Africa. What a clever chap you are!”1 No. We prefer to see the quality of those ideas tested in the crucible of public debate. That’s another key part of the Oxford intellectual tradition you see: you can argue any damn thing you like but you need to be able to justify it with facts and logic – otherwise your idea is worthless.

This ludicrous notion you have that a bronze statue of Cecil Rhodes should be removed from Oriel College, because it’s symbolic of “institutional racism” and “white slavery”. Well even if it is – which we dispute – so bloody what? Any undergraduate so feeble-minded that they can’t pass a bronze statue without having their “safe space” violated really does not deserve to be here. And besides, if we were to remove Rhodes’s statue on the premise that his life wasn’t blemish-free, where would we stop? As one of our alumni Dan Hannan has pointed out, Oriel’s other benefactors include two kings so awful – Edward II and Charles I – that their subjects had them killed. The college opposite – Christ Church – was built by a murderous, thieving bully who bumped off two of his wives. Thomas Jefferson kept slaves: does that invalidate the US Constitution? Winston Churchill had unenlightened views about Muslims and India: was he then the wrong man to lead Britain in the war?”

Actually, we’ll go further than that. Your Rhodes Must Fall campaign is not merely fatuous but ugly, vandalistic and dangerous. We agree with Oxford historian RW Johnson that what you are trying to do here is no different from what ISIS and the Al-Qaeda have been doing to artefacts in places like Mali and Syria. You are murdering history.

And who are you, anyway, to be lecturing Oxford University on how it should order its affairs? Your #‎rhodesmustfall campaign, we understand, originates in South Africa and was initiated by a black activist who told one of his lecturers “whites have to be killed”. One of you – Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh – is the privileged son of a rich politician and a member of a party whose slogan is “Kill the Boer; Kill the Farmer”; another of you, Ntokozo Qwabe, who is only in Oxford as a beneficiary of a Rhodes scholarship, has boasted about the need for “socially conscious black students” to “dominate white universities, and do so ruthlessly and decisively!”

Great. That’s just what Oxford University needs. Some cultural enrichment from the land of Winnie Mandela, burning tyre necklaces, an AIDS epidemic almost entirely the result of government indifference and ignorance, one of the world’s highest per capita murder rates, institutionalised corruption, tribal politics, anti-white racism and a collapsing economy. Please name which of the above items you think will enhance the lives of the 22,000 students studying here at Oxford.

And then please explain what it is that makes your attention grabbing campaign to remove a listed statue from an Oxford college more urgent, more deserving than the desire of probably at least 20,000 of those 22,000 students to enjoy their time here unencumbered by the irritation of spoilt, ungrateful little tossers on scholarships they clearly don’t merit using racial politics and cheap guilt-tripping to ruin the life and fabric of our beloved university.

Understand us and understand this clearly: you have everything to learn from us; we have nothing to learn from you.

Oriel College, Oxford

Drug addiction

Watching Al-Jazeera this morning 4/2/16. They are on about addictions. Whose to blame, and who isn’t? How is it defined etc. Doctors are prescribing opiates for back pain; and all sorts of pain problems. The part that is missed: is doctors work on ten per cent knowledge; and ninety percent belief. Blind belief, in what the drug companies research tells them, is factual. But it isn’t! The drug company’s interests, start, and end, with selling drugs: so when you get hooked, they make more money. Your life is ruined, all because you got hurt working or have a problem: and they get rich from your misery. If you’re disabled: you’re a scrounger; and not to be touched, in case it’s catching. You pay insurance all your working life, for to cover you during such occasions, but you’re still a useless scrounger. Drug companies do nearly all the research; and the medical collages get funded by them; and so follow the money monkey.

We have reached a level, where we can no longer trust doctors. It’ not their fault, as all they know, is what they are taught; and when research is directed solely to make money: regardless of any harm down; then the blame lies firmly on the shoulders of the drug company’s bosses. These are Limited Liability corporations, with wealth beyond belief; and so can apparently do as they please. You pay.

Governments get funding from them, directly, or by proxy from the bankers, who hold large interests, through other limited liability companies that they also own. It’s like a pigs bed: all chopped up and screwed around. A tangled mess. So they can play legal games for years. There are about seventeen very wealthy families involved; and they call it business.

What do you call it, when people’s lives are ruined; and often lost, while they sport themselves on their huge private yachts, gained by legalised fraud; and fuelled by pure greed. Should you come close to one of them, you’re rushed away; you scum. But who is scum? Them or you? Whose life have you deliberately, and knowingly, harmed for money: or any other excuse? The ordinary man, and woman, in the street, crate the money that they covet for themselves. Your only importance is to be used to generate money, for them. Often working under poor; and, or unhealthy conditions. If you don’t do it, you will starve. They will see to it. If you speak, they will destroy your life without conscience. They appear to have reached a level of conceit, that they believe themselves to be above reproach. But that’s what absolute power does. It commits every crime in the book; hides behind the money, and remains safe. How much longer will such safety serve them, when the people wake up. Or will we wake up, perhaps too late. Let someone else do it; and we will just sit back, get the benefits if any; and complain. Think about it,

bob crosbie

voting day

As the governments put people under pressure, and as they do, they also learn new tricks. They learn how to walk that tight line, to manipulate and trick the various populations. When, and they will cross the line causing revolution, but not till they feel, that they can win, and supress the people: leaving us helpless They pass new statutes; and call them laws: but they are not laws, nor are they always lawful; and often contradictory.

Very often, they are unlawful to the level of being criminal. It becomes more obvious every day, but who is taking any notice. You either know it: not know it: or don’t want to know it, but you must by this late hour, aware within whatever state you live in. People are being carried off in handcuffs, for demonstrating. as seen on R.T.T.V this Am 2/2/16: All this for just lawfully trying to maintain the ownership of their homes and land. It’s happening everywhere: and the nets are tightening. Now we have two choices; they are either revolution against government abuses, or wait. The longer you wait, the tighter their grip; and the less chance of winning.

Some yeas ago the Pilgrims Society, headed by Queen Elizabeth II, decided to reduce the world population by 75% or close to it. So off went Blair and bush, and started the Iraqi war. They appeared to have simply got it wrong. Or did they? We now have half the world at war over religion; and we all know the best way to start a war, is to place two religions together in the same place, and sit back. Many of you will have wondered why they are making such a mess of handling the middle eastern wars, and now they are becoming more localized. Why leave the Saudi government in power? There has been plenty of reason, time, and opportunity to remove them. Why eliminate others, not half as bad as them. Their President is a trouble maker; who doesn’t care about his people, but he fits their needs.

All our assets are being sold off to privately owned corporations: and politicians are getting rich on the proceeds. We all know that politicians are all liars; and tell you whatever they want you to believe. Not actually know: but believe. So they use religion to ensure that you carry on thinking that what you only believe has some great value. Well it has, to them, but not to you. When you vote; draw a line down, and through all the candidates’ names, and write below it “NONE OF THESE”. To not vote, allows them to assume, that they have your mandate. When you do this and photograph the form, after drawing your line, or arrow; they cannot claim your mandate. The trickery they indulge in, in order to con: need to be neutralized. So this is the way to go. Use their own tricks against them. But remember that they have the police, army, and control over all the money. They also decide what is legal and what is not, but the law takes precedent; and no one in practice, can change it. Unless we let them.

All the time you hear about what the people believe in. Why? Why not what he people actually know. The problem: and the greatest weapon against you, is lack of fact. Facts, that you’re not allowed to know. After all who controls education, media etc. You, the state, or the church; and who controls them and I such manner us? The bankers do; and they are all privately owned, limited liability corporations. They take no responsibility through liability law for their actions, as they have shown here in Ireland. Voting time is here, so don’t forget. If you don’t vote; your mandate will be assumed. If you use the “None of these” you can tell them to go to hell; and there is little they can do about it, apart from lock us up; and they can’t lock us all up. We are a country with a government. They see it the other way round: as a government with a country. You will soon own nothing, not even yourself. It’s possible that it’s already gone too far; and don’t forget who owns the government. Not you; but the bankers. So either get off your backside, and help, or suffer the consequences. We will be reduced to a nation of slaves. Think about it. Believe or don’t believe,
bob crosbie


There is a lot of talk these days, about terrorism. So what is a terrorist? Is it someone with a bomb, who want to make people do things his way, or else he will do you harm? Is it a group of people who want you to do something their way, instead of yours; and threatens you if you object, or won’t conform? Governments seem to avoid a definite definition; and do whatever suits them. So if your government doesn’t like what you do, then if they threaten you with violence of any kind, then your own government are a bunch of terrorists. The definitions are as follows =

There is neither an academic nor an accurate legal consensus regarding the definition of terrorism.[1][2] Various legal systems and government agencies use different definitions. Moreover, governments have been reluctant to formulate an agreed upon, legally binding definition. These difficulties arise from the fact that the term is politically and emotionally charged.[3]
Could it be that it’s financially driven by the faceless ones that actually run your government? The shadow, behind the scenes, government of the Churches and Bankers.

Definitions of terrorism – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” End of description.

I have pointed out the difference between what is lawful and what is legal; and they are not the same. So they can come and get you whenever they want to. Maybe that’s why people are too scared to stand up and be counted? When a country tries to press its ideas on another; and they use force that is a form of terrorism so that they can’t make a lawful definition, they would be classed as terrorists., and not caring people, with the best interests of the people or the country at heart.
So what about freedom? How much do you actually have and have not? The truth is that you are anything but free. Free people can do all sorts of things that you can’t, or dare not do. Think about it.
Bob crosbie.